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Re: Remote equipment for sports broadcasting
To: Tim Roberts <tim@kmocfm.com>, crtech@crtech.org
Subject: Re: Remote equipment for sports broadcasting
From: Dan Grimes <dangrimes@sosradio.net>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 15:51:42 -0800
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With the Studio Technologies announcer stations, it is easy to have an interuptable foldback channel for the announcers to listen to and a separate output for talking privately to the studio.  They have separate input and outputs for the foldback/COM.

Since the Comrex Access has bi-directional audio  (you need one at the studio and one at the remote), you can send announcer mix to the studio and a separate COM channel to the studio and then return a full program feed and a separate IFB/AUX mix feed (or mix minus if your console has that sophistication) to the announcer stations, using the separate left-right channels.

You will need to use an AUX mix from the local audio mixer for the return IFB feeds and then the announcer boxes mix out the individual talent mic (actually, there is an adjustment for balance).  If you use a program mix from the studio, there will be a delay and you cannot mix out the talent through the announcer station.  So you might have an Aux mix return with just playback and studio talent.

The Studio Technologies announcer boxes are not very portable.  So if your Spotter is mobile, you'll need to come up with a wireless solution.  I bought a used ClearCom Tempest 900MHz system off eBay with 4 beltpacks for $1200 (note: there are cheaper systems like Freespeak but they are not very robust).  You then put the spotter on a wireless mic and the program feed goes to the Tempest input for background audio and IFB.  However, you definitely need a mix-minus (or separate aux mix) so the Spotter doesn't hear themselves in the system because of the delay through both the Tempest and the Comrex.  It is hard to talk with even as little as 100 mS delay!

I am sure that is all very confusing but I am sure you'll be able to work through what I am talking about.

I am sure this will eat up $12K very quickly.  Just make sure you have lots of spare headsets!

-Dan



On 11/9/2018 12:13 PM, Tim Roberts wrote:
Dan,
That would be ideal. Looks like there could be up to $12,000 available for equipment purchases from various booster club supporters.

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Dan Grimes <dangrimes@sosradio.net> wrote:

With that many involved, I assume you will want a good COM and IFB system to go with it?


On 11/9/2018 11:03 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:
Thanks Dan. Right now just looking to see how much the equipment cost would be. It is for radio. Thinking probably one person in studio, 1 for play by play, 1 for color, and a spotter. If we go ahead with this it would be for next season, just trying to piece together all the logistics right now. We'd be covering the Friday night home games of the three high schools in town. They all share our local stadium with the college.
-Tim/KMOC

On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Dan Grimes <dangrimes@sosradio.net> wrote:
At UNLV/KUNV, we used Comrex Access Portable with the Comrex sidecar mixer and Audio Technica headphone/headsets (low cost ones) for the announcers.  However, for TV, we used the Sennheiser headsets ($360) and I liked the mics and headphone drivers on them better (both models we used are now discontinued).  Also, the AT were single muff and the Sennheiser were double muff with closed backs (for sound isolation).

The WiFi card card options for the Comrex worked well where there were no network ports available.

Make sure you get a cough button in there.  When we had a big production (producers, directors and other crew involved), we used the Studio Technologies announcers consoles (https://studio-tech.com/product-type/announcers-and-producers-consoles/). Unfortunately, they didn't work very well with ClearCom PL equipment so we had to go in and out of our audio console to feed COM to the announcers headsets.  But otherwise, the Studio Technologies consoles were very flexible.  They allow the play-by-play announcers and color to talk to the directors and producers without going over the air.

I can go into more detail if you need.

-Dan


On 11/9/2018 10:24 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:
What works best for you? What's the most reliable setup available?

Tim - KMOC


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