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RE: Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program
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From: "Allard, Mark G" <MGAllard@unwsp.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 18:25:39 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CRTech] Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program

I made use of Orcad’s hierarchy function.

For example; A drawing could be made that would be a block diagram of a device.  Click on one of the blocks and that would open a link to the schematic of that block.

Orcad could also be used to design circuit boards.

It could check a design to insure IC inputs and outputs were terminated correctly.

It was a very nice program.

Mark A


From: Mike Price <mprice@srnradio.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 10:06
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: RE: [CRTech] Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program


Wow, That goes back!  I used it on a laptop the had a monochrome vga display and a colossal 30MB hard drive. J

I remember doing something silly and wiping out all of my files and having to start all over.  What a bummer!


Michael W. Price

Digital Product Engineer

Salem Radio Network

6400 Belt Line Rd., STE 210

Irving, TX  75063






From: Allard, Mark G [mailto:MGAllard@unwsp.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 3:31 PM
To: CRTech
Subject: RE: [CRTech] Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program


Just wondering if anyone used Orcad from DOS days.

Mark A


From: Dan Grimes <dangrimes@sosradio.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 15:23
To: crtech@crtech.org
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program


I would like to take this discussion to the next step and compare features, if anyone has some additional input.

I have used Visio and it provides some nice features for wiring.  For instance, you can use preset blocks with connection points.  As you move blocks around, the wires stay connected.  It also provides some anchors and custom lock points.  Unfortunately, the auto-location of wires after you move an object or block tends to mess up the wiring.  Also, I think you are forced to use their blocks; you cannot make custom objects and blocks with line connection points.

I have not used Draftsight.  Is anyone using it and have pre-drawn blocks for equipment commonly used in radio broadcasting?  I think this one might have some potential since it is a CAD program.  But I do hate dealing with AutoCAD demands.  I much prefer GUI gestures for creating lines and connections!

WireCAD is expensive but might be worth the money.  Does it have good blocks and templates for radio broadcast equipment?  I imagine it does which would be a real time saver.

Open Office Draw is a basic drawing program that is free but has no features for connections.  You can draw your own blocks but I don't think it allows for keeping lines connected to points on them.  Please do correct me if I am missing that feature.

I used to use ClarisDraw for Macintosh.  That was an incredible program and I had custom drawn every piece of equipment in my facility, complete with all connection points.   Too bad Apple bought it and discontinued it shortly thereafter.

So I think an important feature I require is to have the ability to make custom blocks with connection points with a wiring feature that will keep lines connected as you move objects around.  Anyone doing that?  Anyone have pre-drawn equipment (blocks/object library)?

-Dan Grimes



On 9/12/2018 11:05 AM, Bob Morris wrote:

Absolute best is Visio but it is pricy. Try Draftsight 2017 or 2018.  It is an Autocad equivalent even recognizing some of the same commands. Uses the Model space and Paper space approach of autocad. It is 2D only. File format is compatible with autocad so you can leverage your existing .dwg files. It is from the same company that makes Solid Works so it is a solid package. Best part is that it is free. You have to re-register it every six months but it is painless. HIGHLY recommend this package. You can upgrade to a Pro version for a very affordable $149 per year if you use it a lot. My hat is off to Dassault Systems for their generosity in making this free for us occasional users.


Bob Morris


From: Marcos O'Rourke <mo@kwve.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2018 1:54:08 PM
To: CRTech
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Open Source or Inexpensive CAD/Drawing Program


If you want to go crazy, you can look at WireCAD. I use that and really like it.

Marcos O'Rourke, CBRE CBNE
K-Wave Radio



On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 10:53 AM kgms Tucson <940kgms@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't do many wiring diagrams and when I do them are super basic. I have used Open Office Draw. Libre Office has a similar product. 


Right now I am using Lucid chart. I mostly do network/equipment diagrams and Lucid chart is pretty cool because it you can import Viso stencils that manufacturers provide. They also have a lot of common icons available without importing icons. They have a Cisco, wiring, process engineering, flowchart, floorplan, rack, and more sets. It is $5 a month paid yearly for a single user. I find it easier to use than Draw, but maybe it's just because I have had more practice. 




On Fri, Sep 7, 2018 at 4:29 PM Dan Grimes <dangrimes@sosradio.net> wrote:

Fellow Engineers,

What do you all like to use for making wiring drawings that is
open-source or low cost and efficient to learn and use?

-Dan Grimes, SOS Radio Network

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