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Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
From: Pat Wahl <pwahl@wwib.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:57:14 -0500
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Andy, I was just reading the Public Notice at page four near the end of the middle paragraph. It talks about when the freeze would be lifted, then the FCC might require (or permit) you to have the study done at that point. That seems to at least imply that you would not be shut out of the option. The argument seems to be that registering under the limited waiver with the no interference protection condition is not placing you at risk of new interference so long as the freeze continues. Not so when the freeze is lifted and a flood of broadband signals comes in. Then you might gladly have the study done to receive the interference protection. You will see at the end of the Public Notice that anyone not registered before July 18, 2018 may be out of luck.

After consulting with our FCC counsel we are going ahead with the study and registration both. You might want to check with your attorney. Ours was able to arrange a discount for us on the study.

Pat Wahl
Chippewa Falls, WI



On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Andy Larsen <andy@whwl.net> wrote:

This was exactly my thought. I like the idea of registering to let the FCC know how many users are out there and *depend* on C-band satellite to make the communications networks work. However, my gut feeling is that the FCC will go ahead with this regardless. There are many more wireless users begging for more data than there are broadcasters. So I agree...paying to say "yes, we're here" so the FCC knows how many users it's ignoring, but offering no protection, I can think of better ways to spend the money. It seems like I've just flushed $435 down the bureaucratic hole.

Recognizing that no one has a crystal ball, let me throw out a couple of questions...

If I register now and the FCC goes ahead with this stupid idea, could I then do a PCN and *add* it to the registration? Since I'm already an existing user will I have any kind of priority to do that, or have I now lost any hope of having protection if the move is made and I don't have a coordinated downlink when that decision comes down? I guess the big question I'm really asking is this: As the manager of a small non-profit ministry, help me understand why this is a good use of resources. This is kind of what I got from the two responses below that I'm responding to, but really didn't see that conversation continue.


On 4/25/2018 2:16 PM, nathaniel.steele@icloud.com wrote:

 

 

“(IMHO: That being said, registration without coordination that provides protection against interference is basically just like paying $435 to participate in a survey or poll… what’s the point?  The FCC seems to be moving ahead on a steamroller on this topic.)”

 

That was what I was thinking…….

 

If there’s no protection , what’s the point of spending the money? I could use a new microphone more than I could use a registration that won’t protect me from interference…..

 

 

From: Sherrod Munday <smunday@ieee.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 12:58 PM
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: Re: [CRTech] SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018

 

On Apr 25, 2018, at 13:43, Pat Wahl <pwahl@wwib.com> wrote:

 

Your interpretation [that registrations filed without a PCN would not be afforded any protection] seems to be the more correct version.

 

(IMHO: That being said, registration without coordination that provides protection against interference is basically just like paying $435 to participate in a survey or poll… what’s the point?  The FCC seems to be moving ahead on a steamroller on this topic.)

 

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References: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
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(Terry Cowan <tcowan@knlr.com>, 24 Apr 2018 23:18:55 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us>, 24 Apr 2018 23:32:50 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Tom Bosscher <tom@bosscher.org>, 25 Apr 2018 00:15:38 -0000)
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(Gregg Richwine <gmsnrich@live.com>, 25 Apr 2018 03:23:29 -0000)
RE: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
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