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RE: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
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Yes, I think Schedule B is necessary (at least we’ve always supplied it on ES applications) – it contains the technical details about your antenna and site, etc..

You might have to poke around on the web to find parameters if the antenna manufacturer and model are known..

Otherwise Comsearch or other folks that routinely do applications might be able to identify your models..

Also folks here on CRTech might be able to help identify too..





From: Terry Cowan [mailto:tcowan@knlr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:05 PM
To: crtech@crtech.org
Subject: Re: [CRTech] SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018



I downloaded the FCC's sample 312.  It has a Schedule B with a lot of information about which most of us have no knowledge.

Is the Schedule B required for registration?


Terry Cowan



On 04/25/18 13:53, Mark Johnson wrote:

The following was supplied to us by SES:


On April 19, 2018, the FCC issued a public notice imposing a temporary freeze on applications to add or modify fixed-satellite service (FSS) earth station licenses, receive-only registrations and fixed microwave licenses in the 3.7 – 4.2 GHz frequency band.  At the same time, the FCC created a 90-day window during which operators of existing FSS stations in that band can register or license a station that is currently in use.  The window provides a limited opportunity for current earth station operators to be entered into the FCC’s database, providing the FCC with more complete and accurate information on existing earth stations.  The FCC will use this information in considering whether and how to allow other services to use this band.

The freeze does not affect applications to renew or cancel current earth station authorizations, or to correct location data regarding earth station licenses and registrations.  But the 90-day window only applies to stations that were constructed and operational as of the April 19 public notice, and the window closes on July 18, 2018.

The FCC acknowledged concerns raised by the satellite industry regarding the burdens and costs associated with the existing registration framework, including the need for a coordination report.  In response, the public notice introduces a temporary waiver of the coordination report requirement.  Removing this requirement reduces the cost of registering from ~$1100 per earth station, to solely the $435 FCC application fee.

The FCC notes that it may choose to take into account only registered or licensed stations for interference protection from new services in the band.  As a result, it is important to ensure that stations that have been operating but not registered be submitted in this 90 day filing window.  We have argued that the FCC must protect existing use of the band, including for reception of audio and video signals, but protection against interference likely will be non-existent for stations not entered into FCC’s records during this filing window.


Sent from my iPad

Mark Johnson 


LinkUp Communications 

"In the business of making friends"

On Apr 25, 2018, at 1:34 PM, Sherrod Munday <smunday@ieee.org> wrote:

On Apr 25, 2018, at 14:13, Dave Land <dave@klvv.com> wrote:

Looking at the sample application, they want to know make and model of my dishes. That's a problem for me. Our two dishes came with the property when we bought it 27 years ago(!) from a defunct LPTV station and we don't have any data on them. Is there some way I can identify these from just a picture? Or is there some place on the dish they usually put this info? 


You’ll have to see if you can identify it conclusively.  If you can’t identify the make and model of the dish, you probably (most likely) won’t be able to get a PCN for it.


Frankly, if your dishes are 27 years old I’d be *extremely* suspicious they aren’t 2-degree compliant, in which case you’re not likely going to be able to get them protected (or maybe even registered, though I don’t have a chapter and verse to cite here).


I’m surprised they are working well for you.  Even if they were 2-degree compliant originally, dishes do sag and age over time, and performance can degrade even from sitting there in the weather.


I’d suggest that you post a (<30kB file size) picture of your dish/dishes to the list.  Someone here might recognize it.  Include in your email as much information as possible: 

* Aperture size (diameter across the front side of the dish)

* Number of feed horn supports

* Number of panels/sections on the dish

* Az/El versus polar mount, and what diameter post it’s mounted on

* Feedhorn style/type (circular/single linear/dual-pol linear, C-band only, C- and Ku-band combined, etc.)

* Deice kit (if present)

* Mount style (roof mount; non-penetrating vs. penetrating, or ground-mount into concrete, etc.)


Sherrod Munday



References: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Michael Barnes <barnmichael@gmail.com>, 24 Apr 2018 22:40:48 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Terry Cowan <tcowan@knlr.com>, 24 Apr 2018 23:18:55 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us>, 24 Apr 2018 23:32:50 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Tom Bosscher <tom@bosscher.org>, 25 Apr 2018 00:15:38 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Gregg Richwine <gmsnrich@live.com>, 25 Apr 2018 03:23:29 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Mark Johnson <linkupsat@icloud.com>, 25 Apr 2018 04:24:39 -0000)
RE: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Scott Foster <Scott.Foster@SalemMedia.com>, 25 Apr 2018 15:10:32 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Sherrod Munday <smunday@ieee.org>, 25 Apr 2018 18:00:38 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Dave Land <dave@klvv.com>, 25 Apr 2018 18:13:43 -0000)
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(Sherrod Munday <smunday@ieee.org>, 25 Apr 2018 18:34:36 -0000)
Re: SBE Regulatory Alert - Apr 23, 2018
(Mark Johnson <linkupsat@icloud.com>, 25 Apr 2018 20:53:34 -0000)
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