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RE: Linux XP
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Subject: RE: Linux XP
From: Jon Foreman <Jon@ksgn.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2018 17:39:53 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CRTech] Linux XP

Jack, I assume that system has no trouble at all keeping up with about 100 or so Wordstar 1.0 users. J


From: Jack Epperson [mailto:Jack.Epperson@alphamediausa.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2018 8:07 AM
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: RE: [CRTech] Linux XP



I have a Quad Core i7 at 3.6Ghz with 16G of RAM, 4G graphics on a 5T RAID 5 with my candle powered monitor and a 5.25 floppy so that I can still run my Wordstar 1.0. That is the software that I learned how to do word processing on and I have never seen anything since then that runs just like it! So If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! (or allow any upgrades, improvements or changes of any kind. Obsolescence is just a state of mind!) J



Jack Epperson

Chief Engineer
Alpha Media- Aurora, IL
Matrix Broadcasting- Crystal Lake, IL





From: Fred Gleason [mailto:fredg@paravelsystems.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 4:43 PM
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Linux XP


On Apr 4, 2018, at 12:14, RADIO DOCTOR <lylehenry@fastmail.fm> wrote:


Willie, have you looked at StartOS developed in China.  Originally called YLMF OS.  It is intended as an XP clone built on Linux and Microsoft was OK with it.  There are Chinese and English versions.  I'm gonna give it a shot.  From what I see on Wikipedia, 5.1 was the latest version with 6.0 available in Beta.


A little larger perspective may perhaps be helpful here.


Whenever I turn up a Rivendell system at a site that had previously been running Brand X automation and OS, there are a couple of stages that I typically see the staff go through. The initial one is invariably a drive to make the Rivendell/Linux setup work, look and feel *exactly like* the previous “Brand X” setup. This is very understandable; we all have work that needs to get done and have typically invested significant time and effort in learning the ins-and-outs of the previous dispensation.


Then, typically a couple/few months into the install, a light starts to come on with one or more of the staff members. “You mean, I can do <some-cool-feature> with Rivendell?! The old system would never do that!” After that, the trajectory of that person changes; rather than attempting to force the form of the new system to be that of the dead-and-gone past one, they set out to learn how to operate the system “the Linux way”. And in so doing they discover a whole new world of power and capability. Yes, it takes some time and effort, but the payoff is more than worth it.


So, when evaluating the various Linux offerings out there, be sure to look at more than just “how much does this look like Windows <whatever>”. In particular, I would strongly recommend adopting one of the better known (and hence better maintained) distros out there, such as (list in alphabetical order):


            CentOS [http://www.centos.org]

            Debian [http://www.debian.org]

            Mint [http://linuxmint.com]

            Ubuntu [http://www.ubuntu.com]


The reason is totally pragmatic: these distros all have large user bases, and thus large developer communities. This directly translates into a significantly better chance that the hardware support and features you need to will work properly ‘out-of-the-box’, as opposed to the smaller offerings, which have much smaller resources to devote to development and improvement of the product. In particular, many of the “Windows-clone" type Linux offerings have a reputation for being quite volatile; a release or two, then they’re gone!


Finally, one last thing to think about when choosing a distro: what application(s) are you planning to run on it? If it’s standard e-mail/web browser/word processing setup, then Linux Mint or Ubuntu would likely be good choices. OTOH, if it’s Asterisk or Rivendell you’re after, you really want to be on CentOS. It’s not that those applications cannot be made to work well on other distros, but rather that those particular applications have often been optimized to work particularly well and easily “out-of-the-box” on certain distros. Making them work elsewhere is doable, but can require significant additional investment of time and knowledge.


Enough soapbox. Looking forward to seeing some of you guys and gals at Treasure Island next week!






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