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RE: Online Backup? Which one?
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From: nathaniel.steele@icloud.com
Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2018 11:34:17 -0600
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Do you really need to backup every day? I would consider not backing up over the weekend if you cant verify the integrity of the data your backing up.


My worst case backup I lose nearly 2 months of data if the main studio burns to the ground the day before I cycle the backup drives. If that happens I have more problems than missing 2 months of data though….


From: Dave Land [mailto:dave@klvv.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 11:29 AM
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Online Backup? Which one?


We have a external HDD backup but the backup software ran before we realized there was a problem and backed up bad files! If it had happened on a weekday we would have caught it running. It hit early on Sunday morning and ran most of the day before anyone noticed a problem! 


I'm looking at iDrive, anyone used that?



On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Jesse Diller <jdiller@weec.org> wrote:

I’ll third it. I have a workstation with a connected external HDD that runs full backups on Friday night, and then does incremental backups the rest of the week.  It alternates as well, so I have at any one time, a full backup plus a week of incrementals for the current week and the previous week.


- Jesse Diller

IT Director, Strong Tower Christian Media
WEEC 100.7FM / WFCJ 93.7FM


From: Tom Van Gorkom [mailto:tomvangorkom@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 12:13 PM
To: CRTech
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Online Backup? Which one?


I second the external HD. That's what we do. I have one automation server backing to the other each night for redundancy and then plug in and run a script every so often for a disconnected third backup.

Tom Van Gorkom
Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM

Office: 956-380-8150  
Cell: 865-803-7427

Rio Grande Bible Institute
4300 S US Hwy 281
Edinburg, TX 78539


On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:23 AM, Willie Barnett <wbradiolists@gmail.com> wrote:

I can't imagine that you're creating (or replacing) THAT MUCH new content every week! :o

Your backup software SHOULD have an "incremental" backup option, which would only copy the files that were CHANGED since the last backup. That saves OODLES of time. :) (I have one of those running on some production machines.)

I do a weekly, supervised, manual backup of the audio files that have changed since the previous week. It's seldom more than 100 gigs, which backs up to NAS in less about 10~15 minutes. (Everything is uncompressed, CD quality WAV) This way, even if the worst-case scenario were to occur, my backups are completely safe, as they are on an unpowered device.

BTW, I've also seen 6+ hour backups, when copying an entire TB drive. I just start it, and walk away, checking up on it now and then. Having a spare "workhorse" computer in the shop is a very handy thing. :) Any machine from a 1Ghz P3 on up, is adequate.


You and your team will be in my prayers!

God bless!!




On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Dave Land <dave@klvv.com> wrote:

Thanks Willie for your input...

We already do all that but it got our backups too because it hit on a weekend and the backups ran at night like they were supposed to. Nobody knew it was bad data getting backed up. A USB backup takes 23 hours! Our NAS takes about 6+ hrs for a full backup. 

Broadcast PCs are not on the same network. 




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