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RE: Program information
To: CRTech <crtech@crtech.org>
Subject: RE: Program information
From: Mike Shane <mshane@salemomaha.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 20:42:51 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CRTech] Program information

Just FYI.  This data you describe is not the same as the CartChunk data described elsewhere.  If you use BSI automation (and perhaps others) they will use these fields but many others use Cart Chunk only.  If you open the Properies window for a file in Adobe Audition, look at the tabs across the top.  Way over on the right is a tab called Cart.  This permits you to enter Cart Chunk info within Adobe Audition and also will read it from files that already have it.


Mike Shane

Salem Media Group Omaha


From: Tim Swanson [mailto:timswanson@kswp.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:24 PM
To: CRTech
Subject: Re: [CRTech] Program information


The only thing I can go on is what my automation uses. 

We edit everything with Adobe Audition and save the info under Radio Industry - description and advertiser... this becomes artist and title for songs.

So for me the description/artist of a program is the host... Dr. Tony Evans.

The advertiser/title becomes the program name... The Urban Alternative ... or Two Minutes with Tony

That's my 2¢ worth.






On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 2:10 PM, dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us> wrote:

so if the UI were to tweak the cartchunk fields during file transfer, would it have a place where you could enter the data you wanted in the title & artist fields? based on the ambos name, ie xxxx_xxxx? would this be a shared database so everyone would benefit from it or would it be particular to each stn? ie what degree of control?

i personally would rather leave the cartchunk data as-is from the ministries and have the UI change it for those who want different data, for RDS or whatever.

dave allen


On 2/7/2018 11:57 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:

Our Automation system generates the RDS info automatically. We use Wide Orbit Automaton For Radio. Would love to hear Jim McDermott chime in on this. I think he uses RCS.



On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:50 PM, dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us> wrote:

it seems that you already need the 'extra' step of translating the cartchunk data into RDS data (ie xml?). sounds like MagicRDS is a way to do that step and adjust the data too. or do some automation systems produce RDS data directly from the cartchunk data?

help me understand the process.

dave allen


On 2/7/2018 11:42 AM, Tim Roberts wrote:

We could use Radio Spider to change all the info, but that adds another step to the process and more potential for issues. Sounds like Free MagicRDS can do the same thing, I just don't like the idea of adding more steps to getting what we want where we want it. Every step adds more potential for error. If there was a way for the Amb-OS UI to take care of it you wouldn't need to use that additional computer to make it happen with Free MagicRDS.



On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:13 AM, Bill Hurne <billhurne@pilgrimradio.com> wrote:

Free MagicRDS software from Pira.cz has a nifty text replacing feature that can replace your unwanted text with anything you desire.    We air both music and speaking programs and have very nice looking RDS thanks to MagicRDS running on a computer between the automation RDS output and the encoders.   And did I say this software is free?




From: Tim Swanson [mailto:timswanson@kswp.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:00 AM
To: CRTech
Subject: [CRTech] Program information


We have new apps coming out in a week or so and I've been hustling to get and xml file with song info for current play and history. It works well for music.

However, KAVX is programming and it works well for the most part.

But my way of thinking is you take a program like Insight For Living and instead of a cartchunk that says IFL daily / Insight for Living  it should say Chuck Swindoll / Insight for Living... or KeyLife / Steve Brown  all using the same fields as song title and artist.

I wonder if we could all sweet talk the programmers that supply the good folks at Ambos to do this for us.

Anyone with me? 🤔😂😂😂










References: Program information
(Tim Swanson <timswanson@kswp.org>, 6 Feb 2018 17:00:34 -0000)
RE: Program information
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Re: Program information
(Tim Roberts <tim@kmocfm.com>, 7 Feb 2018 18:42:30 -0000)
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