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RE: C-Band Spectrum Grab
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Subject: RE: C-Band Spectrum Grab
From: Mike Shane <mshane@salemomaha.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 02:10:25 +0000
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Thread-topic: [CRTech] C-Band Spectrum Grab

Sorry to resurrect an old topic, but there is a parallel here with an action the FCC took years ago.  In that proceeding, UPS (United Parcel Service, not the power supply! the business built on the illegal practice of double parking) wanted to use 219-222 MHz for a mobile radio system, which was never built out BTW.  One of the “expert” commissioners pulled out the ARRL Repeater Directory and concluded that all the amateur radio activity in the 220-225 MHz band was above 222.  Well, duh, of course all the REPEATERS were above 222.  That’s what the “gentlemen’s agreement” band plan called for.  There was no publication to which one could turn to find out what kind of occupancy the lower two MHz had.


So, ignoring that inconvenient fact, the 220-222 segment was removed from the amateur service and given over to this private industry spectrum grab, which I understand they did not build out.  It didn’t hurt their cause that one of the Commissioners was a former executive at UPS.  Can you say “Conflict of Interest”?


Here Michael O’Rielly whipped out the license database for a service that no longer requires registration of receive stations to say that only 1500 users are using the spectrum.


Mr. O’Rielly needs to get a clue and have a heart-to-heart chat with some broadcasters as well as fellow commish Ajit Pai.  It would be hard for me to believe (but not impossible) that Mr. Pai has no clue as to how important the 3.7-4.2 GHz band is to over 10,000 broadcasters, particularly the AM broadcasters he so wants to help.


Mike Shane



From: Dave Obergoenner [mailto:daveobergoenner@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 3:50 PM
To: CRTech
Subject: Re: [CRTech] C-Band Spectrum Grab


They could also stand to make the registration a whole lot simpler!


Just the name of the owner, location address, contact info, and coordinates seems like it would be enough for them to know.


But what do I know (clearly not much, because no one asked me).


Dave O.



On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Kevin Kidd <kkbroadcastengineering@gmail.com> wrote:


That was exactly my thought but they are only counting "registered/licensed" C-band downlinks.  As we all know, there are many more un-registered professional downlinks than those that have paid the $395 registration fee.  I reaimed a bunch of dishes to AMC18 this summer and not a single one was "registered" nor was required to be.

I have emailed Chairman Pia and Commissioner O'Reilly with my concerns and a request to waive the registration fee for licensed AM, FM and TV stations as well as cable headends.

This is something that we need to keep an eye on as the FCC tries to auction off access to every frequency possible.  The wireless companies are big bucks lobbies that can magically bend the rules of physics.


Kevin C. Kidd, CSRE/AMD
Lawrenceburg, TN
AM Ground Systems Company  -  WD4RAT
kkidd@kkbc.com  --  866-22-RADIO -- 866-227-2346


On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Dave Obergoenner <daveobergoenner@gmail.com> wrote:

Seriously..."Only 1500 downlinks for C-band in the US"?


What are these people in DC smoking!?!  The degree of their ignorance simply defies description.




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