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Re: Re: crtech Digest 4 Aug 2017 13:23:02 -0000 Issue 14863
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Subject: Re: Re: crtech Digest 4 Aug 2017 13:23:02 -0000 Issue 14863
From: Mark Croom <markc@newmail.kinshipradio.org>
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 17:35:40 -0500
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Of these, I consider the 286s as the only option for spoken word mic processing. 

The others aren't complete enough for mic processing, IN MY OPINION. That's all it is, opinion. The other dbx option on your list will SUCK as a mic processor. Been there, done that. You need better AGC for stuff like this and the 166 and 266 don't have it, they just have the regular over-easy compression which has its place but I don't think that place is as a standalone mic processor.

I have one station using the Behringer two-channel solution. I don't personally like it very much but he's satisfied with it, and since he's the PD that is all I need to know. I just don't want to add more of them to other stations if I can help it. 

I still prefer to get the 286s, as the value level for a complete mic processor. There is a video or article that BSW offers with some good starting points for where to put the controls for spoken voice processing. I start there, and disable the de-esser since those are frequency dependent for the individual voices being processed. Just  a little tweaking seems to work well with the SM7B from moderate baselines.

I love the idea of the Cloudlifter and am really looking forward to trying that one of these days. I don't like having to run the preamp in the 286s almost wide open for the Shure mic that everybody loves, but its output is lower than the RE-20 so you have to add a few dB of additional gain.

Mark
MN

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Tim Madeira <Tim@wrgn.com> wrote:
Coy,

I am currently in the process of research on this as well as one of the two Valley 400's we were using has developed a nasty buzz. . I have narrowed it down to four options. (yes COST is a factor, so the Wheatstone is out)

1. Behringer Multicom Pro-XL MDX4600 Compressor/Limiter/Expander
(4 channel, which would be great for our on air studio...mostly 2 at a time, but 3 to 4 during Share)

2. Behringer Composer Pro-XL MDX2600 Compressor/Limiter/Expander 
(2 channel)

3. dbx 166XS 2-channel Compressor/Limiter/Gate
(2 channel)

4. dbx 286s Channel Strip
(1 channel, only one with pre-amp)


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