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Re: Cellphones on air flight
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Subject: Re: Cellphones on air flight
From: dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:18:12 -0700
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no. this is a totally unrelated accident, of a two-seat cessna 150, caused by intense stupidity - flying at night when not qualified, flying in instrument conditions when not qualified, and adding those two together is very often fatal, ie Ricky Valens, plus taking selfies, ie blinding oneself (at night) with the flashes. definitely a candidate for the darwin award for helping clean up the gene pool :-(

the other accident was a commuter airline, professional, qualified pilots, making an ILS approach to land, but with a cellphone interfering with their readings and the ground appeared where it was not supposed to be.

that's why the 10,000 foot rule. not just for cellphones but for the cockpit too -- for airlines, all un-necessary talk stops under 10,000 feet. and the speed limit changes too BTW. not that i ever had to worry about that.

dave allen

On 3/10/2017 2:42 PM, John Ahern wrote:
John Ahern

Sent from my mobile

On Mar 10, 2017, at 15:14, Willie Barnett <wbradiolists@gmail.com> wrote:

The last few times I've flown, they are very specific in the pre-flight announcements, to tell passengers to SHUT OFF all electronics, saying something like, "not even flight or airplane mode, please turn them completely OFF".... which disappointed me, because I wanted to at least use the CAMERA with the phone in Airplane Mode... but nope. :(

Once at Altitude, we were allowed to use non-phone devices, or phones in Airplane Mode for other purposes... like the camera or MP3 player.

I had not heard that story about a plane CRASHING because of a rebellious, stupid dolt! :(


On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 2:02 PM, dave allen <crtech-mail@reyware.us> wrote:
just PLEASE take airplane mode seriously. it's NOT to save your battery. it's to save your LIFE. to not interfere with the plane's navigation systems. 'just talk'? tell that to the victims of a commuter flight that crashed while on ILS into grand junction CO a while back. traced it back to somebody talking on their cellphone.

dave allen

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